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Has the remembrance and regret of "never again" shifted subtly into the celebration of "this is what we were" -- or even into the rejecting and judgemental "-- and this is what we have become"?

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This might not quite be the response you wanted Altis...I don't have enough info from your first post to determine in what direction you first thought this thread my go...I do, however, have thoughts...

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You of all people should know by now that I do not seek specific responses, Ecthelion.I do find it interesting that you speak nearly every sentence in the conditional "should", though. In your...

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"In your experience, is the way things "should" be so very different from the way things "are"?"Kyle, you sound like a psychologist so often when discussing, trying to draw responses out of people...

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Quote: Kyle, you sound like a psychologist so often when discussing, trying to draw responses out of people instead of talk with them.Curious. And true -- although I might have rephrased that as...

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..."War is certainly a tool of the state but most often, it represents a failure." Most often, not always...but most often. If I just up and decided to try and beat you up, Karash, then I'm a friggin'...

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Talking "with" people is the goal, Kyle. You talk "at" them when you act the psychologist. Fitting that a place like this would have a psychologist, Kyle, but methinks you belong on the couch as well....

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I say it's rare because even in a place like Detroit, the city will experience 4 or 5 random or semi-random acts of bestial violence/murder per day. In a metropolitan are of several million citizens,...

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We're not talking about bestiality, we're talking about violence. Sheesh, boy, you have a one track mind. I turn my back for a second and you're out in the barn again, frightening the horses.

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Actually Karash, it sounds more like you have a one track mind.On to the original question.Should we glorify war itself? No we shouldn't, basically because that tears humankind apart.Should we respect...

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So we honor them for blindly obeying the country they happen to live in? Good policy. By the way, war doesn't tear humankind apart, it makes it stronger. It's a stupid method, but it just happens to...

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Hmm... What was that last line.Quote: The sacrifices they have made is what is being honored, not war itself. I think that sums up my attitude here.For this reason, our Vietnam vets should be honored...

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Absolutely. Thanks for saying so. :)with courtesy,MH

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MH, what you said is actually funny considering that your opinion was the exact opinion of the Shadows on "Babylon 5". They believed that progress was only achieved through warfare and the survival of...

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Chewbacco, That wasn't me....look closely. We have a problem here with often misleading and sometimes satirical usernames. with courtesy,MH

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Chewbacco - pay attention. If you can't even bother to know who you are speaking to, how do you even know what you're saying? Put some thought into it.

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Karash, quit playing games!

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Hey, maybe that would have worked. I mean, yelling.

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I know, but it is the only thing left IMHO as an option to an unruly child. When all other options have been tried and haven't worked. The only other option left is a spanking, and IMHO, the only way...

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